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at the last great senate. but first, the nonpartisan stimson center recently released a report, a new u.s. defense strategy for a new era that outlines four approaches for cutting defense spending but maintaining capability. stimson's co-founder barry blechman spearheaded the study. the report has become a must- read for anyone involved in the coming defense review or budget planning team. barry, welcome to the team. >> thank you, vag go. >> congratulations for your slot on the defense news top 100 most influential people. >> that was the biggest thrill of the year. >> so let's start off with the report. each report begins with assumptions about threats to the united states to be facing and what's going to be needed to meet them what. are those threats and what's the right strategy to address those threats as cost efficiently as possible? >> the group was more optimistic than many people in looking at the world. they see russia as a country that doesn't pose any threats now and really won't, can't for many years. they see china as a potential threat in the future but recognize we have com
. although the u.s. could extend its nuclear umbrella to other nations and there so that obviates that need, but still isn't deterrent working through the cold war something that can also be applied to iran or a number of other nuclear regimes? >> the short answer is question. deterrents can work and of course it did work. it becomes harder many on many as compared with one-on-one. the u.s. and the soviet union became quite experienced in how to handle mutually assured destruction if you like. or mutual deterrents. when you have a number of -- many nations butting up against each other physically essentially, and with much less experience in handling the issue of deterrents, i think the risks become higher. and if as you suggest proliferation is likely to become more widespread, if iran actually gets nuclear capability, i think the risks are very high. i'm rather pessimistic because it does seem to me that one way or another, a local nuclear war could break out and has a fairly high probability of breaking out. and when it happens, if it happens, the destruction will be very great. i'm a --
, for example, missiles like the df21 and other capabilities to push the united states navy and u.s. forces entirely as far away from their shores as possible. what is the navy doing to prepare for the kind of antiaccess, conl septembers and threats that -- concepts and threats that potential forces are develop something. >> the way we operate and the way we operate with our allies, many people like to talk about the soft china, it's about freedom of navigation. it's very clear. those are international waters. we've delivered that message clearly. our actions are we operate in there. we will continue to operate in there, there being the south china sea and all international waters. we're very upfront about it. working with our allies establishes a common set of protocols, again deliver a clear message, be professional about it and talk with the chinese navy as we are. we have the military maritime consultant agreement talks, a series of talks by the pacific commander and his staff and many members in our navy and we also have flag officers talking. that must continue. >> do you also need to
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